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This week Chris is joined in the studio with a former student Mario Ordaz. Mario is not shy about describing himself as, “The big, brown, scary-looking, bald man, you might be nervous to meet.” Chris and Mario met originally when Mario started his undergraduate degree in mathematics at Fresno Pacific University, back around the turn of the century. Mario, a legitimate Division I football playing recruit had chosen to stay closer to home, study an academic subject he had excelled at in High School and go on and enter a stable and very productive career. Today he teaches at a local Middle School, where his defensive front-lineman physique garners instant respect, but his love of learning, mathematics, and people wins the day.